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Trying to get wavy/messy hair look
06-20-2013, 01:03 AM
Post: #1
Trying to get wavy/messy hair look
I'm wanting to get a messy/wavy hair-style. Any product suggestions & tips? Based off Chaz Ortiz's hair style.
Here's a picture of me and my hair style has been said to be 'kinky'

My hair currently, I can understand if it needs trimming first:
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Chaz's hair
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06-20-2013, 08:04 AM
Post: #2
RE: Trying to get wavy/messy hair look
Hey buddy,

I'm Rogelio of the Manly Curls site and the author of The Curly Hair Book. Let me help you out.

First, you have really nice hair, tight-coiled curls and the shape comes off really nice (as an Afro hairstyle). The only issue I see, and that I have seen over the years with many curly haired men, is that you need to be realistic with what can be done with your hair. Let me explain.

Someone suggested in another thread that you should have a look at the hair type guide (click to see it); in your case, you hair type is "kinky" (curly) or, as it is sometimes called, "afro textured hair". Chaz Ortiz has "wavy" hair, which is 2 steps down from your hair type. What this all means is that you cannot get Chaz Ortiz messy loose waves hairstyle naturally; simply because your hair will not behave like his.

The only way to have Chaz Ortiz hairstyle is to use a potent hair product to alter your hair type: this product is called a "texturizer". The texturizer breaks the curl shape and makes the hair looser. Only then, your hair type will begin to resemble wavy hair like that of Chaz Ortiz. There are some hair products you can buy (on Amazon), but, seeing your case, I highly recommend you visit first a beauty salon, especially one tailored to black women; these hair salons are specialised in modifying the usual kinky hair of black women and men, so they will be able to help you out the best.

The problem with texturizing your hair is that it becomes very brittle and easy to break off; ergo, verymessy hairstyles are usually not recommended because they require some heavy-duty manipulation of the hair, although you can get a messy hairstyle if you're careful with your hair.

The other alternative is saying "f*ck it", and actually embracing your curls and going with hairstyles that favour your hair type. For example, your curls stand up pretty cool and are shaping a tight afro, why not grow your hair a bit longer even and get a big Afro hairstyle? Assuming you are in the skate scene, I've seen quite a few black guys who are skaters with big Afros! You can also get some braids done like Jayden Smith (Wil Smith son). Or how about a High Top Fade? I can really see you with that hairstyle.

See the above hairstyle below:

High Top Fade haircut

[Image: jaden-smith_0.jpg]

[Image: Jaden-Smith_1.jpg]


Braids

[Image: 98224438-jaden-smith.jpg]


Big fluffy Afro (you must braids the hair first)
[Image: justin-bieber-justin-bieber-jaden-smith-...-stuff.jpg]


What I'm trying to say buddy is that we are all born with a set of physical traits that are written in our DNA, and hair type is one of them. To put it bluntly, Chaz Ortiz has no problem having a messy hairstyle because in his DNA it says his hair will only curl very slightly and form waves. In your case, it says in your DNA that your hair will form very tight bendy coils. Sure, you can artificially change that, but why not embrace those cool genes you got that allow you to get a huge epic Afro (and that Chaz Ortiz could not in a million times get the hair volume of yours?). Chaz Ortiz has some cool wavy hair (and the kid is awesome at skating), but his hair type would not allow him to get a High Top Fade haircut, while you can easily get one.

And I tell you all of this because I have very-curly hair too and know what it's like to see other hairstyles that you can't really do. I'm happy to help you out some more with your hair/hairstyle/whatever you choose, whether it is texturizing your hair or choosing a more kinky-hair-oriented hairstyle.

Keep me updated, buddy!

Best

P.S: Do also have a look at the epic black men haircuts thread!

Author of the two bestselling hair-care books:

The Curly Hair Book: Or How Men Can Now Rock Their Waves, Coils And Kinks (CLICK HERE to read more about the book)

The Men's Hair Book: A Male's Guide To Hair Care, Hair Styles, Hair Grooming, Hair Products and Rocking It All Without The Baloney (CLICK HERE to read more about the book)
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06-20-2013, 01:08 PM
Post: #3
RE: Trying to get wavy/messy hair look
(06-20-2013 08:04 AM)Curly Hair Wrote:  Hey buddy,

I'm Rogelio of the Manly Curls site and the author of The Curly Hair Book. Let me help you out.

First, you have really nice hair, tight-coiled curls and the shape comes off really nice (as an Afro hairstyle). The only issue I see, and that I have seen over the years with many curly haired men, is that you need to be realistic with what can be done with your hair. Let me explain.

Someone suggested in another thread that you should have a look at the hair type guide (click to see it); in your case, you hair type is "kinky" (curly) or, as it is sometimes called, "afro textured hair". Chaz Ortiz has "wavy" hair, which is 2 steps down from your hair type. What this all means is that you cannot get Chaz Ortiz messy loose waves hairstyle naturally; simply because your hair will not behave like his.

The only way to have Chaz Ortiz hairstyle is to use a potent hair product to alter your hair type: this product is called a "texturizer". The texturizer breaks the curl shape and makes the hair looser. Only then, your hair type will begin to resemble wavy hair like that of Chaz Ortiz. There are some hair products you can buy (on Amazon), but, seeing your case, I highly recommend you visit first a beauty salon, especially one tailored to black women; these hair salons are specialised in modifying the usual kinky hair of black women and men, so they will be able to help you out the best.

The problem with texturizing your hair is that it becomes very brittle and easy to break off; ergo, verymessy hairstyles are usually not recommended because they require some heavy-duty manipulation of the hair, although you can get a messy hairstyle if you're careful with your hair.

The other alternative is saying "f*ck it", and actually embracing your curls and going with hairstyles that favour your hair type. For example, your curls stand up pretty cool and are shaping a tight afro, why not grow your hair a bit longer even and get a big Afro hairstyle? Assuming you are in the skate scene, I've seen quite a few black guys who are skaters with big Afros! You can also get some braids done like Jayden Smith (Wil Smith son). Or how about a High Top Fade? I can really see you with that hairstyle.

See the above hairstyle below:

High Top Fade haircut

[Image: jaden-smith_0.jpg]

[Image: Jaden-Smith_1.jpg]


Braids

[Image: 98224438-jaden-smith.jpg]


Big fluffy Afro (you must braids the hair first)
[Image: justin-bieber-justin-bieber-jaden-smith-...-stuff.jpg]


What I'm trying to say buddy is that we are all born with a set of physical traits that are written in our DNA, and hair type is one of them. To put it bluntly, Chaz Ortiz has no problem having a messy hairstyle because in his DNA it says his hair will only curl very slightly and form waves. In your case, it says in your DNA that your hair will form very tight bendy coils. Sure, you can artificially change that, but why not embrace those cool genes you got that allow you to get a huge epic Afro (and that Chaz Ortiz could not in a million times get the hair volume of yours?). Chaz Ortiz has some cool wavy hair (and the kid is awesome at skating), but his hair type would not allow him to get a High Top Fade haircut, while you can easily get one.

And I tell you all of this because I have very-curly hair too and know what it's like to see other hairstyles that you can't really do. I'm happy to help you out some more with your hair/hairstyle/whatever you choose, whether it is texturizing your hair or choosing a more kinky-hair-oriented hairstyle.

Keep me updated, buddy!

Best

P.S: Do also have a look at the epic black men haircuts thread!

Read everything through. Yeah it'd be best to accept my hair genes and what they come with. I've decided to get a High top fade haircut, something me & my family agree on Big Grin
Thanks for your help man, I really appreciate it
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06-20-2013, 01:40 PM
Post: #4
RE: Trying to get wavy/messy hair look
(06-20-2013 01:08 PM)Skate_Theory Wrote:  Read everything through. Yeah it'd be best to accept my hair genes and what they come with. I've decided to get a High top fade haircut, something me & my family agree on Big Grin
Thanks for your help man, I really appreciate it

My pleasure, buddy. A High Top Fade looks whack! And I'm happy your family agrees with this as it's great to be able to consult your family and have them support you with this.

Keep us updated in the forum, and post your new haircut pics! The forum is growing and the admins told we will soon have a Log section where you can put pics of your hair etc and also a miscellaneous section to talk about other non-hair stuff.

And, of course, let me know how it goes and if you need any help with the High Top Fade haircut. You already have the length so the haircut should be easy to do by a skilled barber.

Happy for you and your decision Smile

Author of the two bestselling hair-care books:

The Curly Hair Book: Or How Men Can Now Rock Their Waves, Coils And Kinks (CLICK HERE to read more about the book)

The Men's Hair Book: A Male's Guide To Hair Care, Hair Styles, Hair Grooming, Hair Products and Rocking It All Without The Baloney (CLICK HERE to read more about the book)
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06-20-2013, 02:43 PM
Post: #5
RE: Trying to get wavy/messy hair look
a high top fade is an awesome hairstyle for a black men bro, you'll see. Embrace those curls of yours and btw your hair grows very nice too, were you growing an afro already??
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06-20-2013, 03:08 PM
Post: #6
RE: Trying to get wavy/messy hair look
And that's why we have Rogelio in this forum, the man is Wikipedia 2 LOL
Awesome to hear your decision Skate_Theory and post those pictures of your new Top High Fade when you get the haircut done. Rogelio talked about the haircut in an article so it's worth your read --> High Top Fade haircut

By the way, are you a skater too or you just liked Chaz Ortiz's messy hairstyle?

I'm one of the admins of this forum. Any questions/issue? Contact me directly or any of the moderators. We welcome any feedback to improve our community.

You can also check out our forum's BEST HAIR PRODUCTS FOR MEN thread to read opinions and useful information on men's hair products.
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06-21-2013, 10:11 PM
Post: #7
RE: Trying to get wavy/messy hair look
bro lots of guys wished they could get your volume trust me (me included!). Just play the game with the cards you got, right now your hair has a very nice round shape so u have lots of potential for growing a sick afro style Smile and a high top fade can only be done with kinky curly hair like yours.

If you can, post a pic of your new high top fade when you get it done, will you be going to a barber or a hairdresser for the cut?
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